#asciilifeform | 2021-02-24

trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-22#1032245 << hahaha, like young boys telling their friends how exhausted they are from fucking hot baebs

snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-22 15:50:22 asciilifeform: in related lulz, http://gpl-violations.org : 'Please note that this homepage is not maintained very well. We're so busy in both technically and legally resolving GPL violations that there's hardly any time left to keep this page up-to-date.'

trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-22#1032246 << it's the coherence of this "they" of which I'm a skeptic, not that the game's corrupt.

snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-22 16:40:01 verisimilitude: I'm reminded of when that TPP was the hot topic, and how it included a segment specifically attacking copyleft in all but name; that was a good example of how the rules simply change when they lose.

trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-22#1032247 << again here, the implicit idea that there's a "they" that is in perfect control.

snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-22 16:40:55 verisimilitude: The appearance of law must be maintained, although that rioting shows it needn't be maintained when inconvenient.

trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-22#1032252 << do you say that law is entirely impossible?

snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-22 17:17:28 asciilifeform: all of this discussion is applicable not merely to opensores licensism, but to whole concept of contractual agreements between unequal parties, and the nonsensical (yet very popular, and well-pushed) notion that the weaker can somehow ding the stronger via 'rule of law' in the workings of a supposed neutral judiciary

trinque: not this shitty place's law, but law in the proper sense.

trinque does not have a pointed point here, just mapping the ideological space

trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-23#1032270 << bawww we're poor again

snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-23 09:22:10 btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $48749.64

trinque: $ticker btc usd

btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $50944.59

trinque: slightly less poor I suppose.

verisimilitude: I leave determining who ``they'' are to the reader.

verisimilitude: I've yet to start reading that research paper.

thimbronion: Overheard 2 days ago in the dentists office from a patient in regards to their Bitcoin investment: "I got liquidated." Guy sounded mentally ill.

asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd

btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $49673.17

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-23#1032298 << strongly depends what you think of as 'law'. i highly rec to read the linked piece.

snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-23 23:19:13 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-22#1032252 << do you say that law is entirely impossible?

asciilifeform: the kind of law that naive folx imagine exists (or supposedly once existed), that 'no one is above...' -- yes, impossible. ( laws of... physics, arithmetic -- no one is above. the rest -- simply a device for automating some of the work for the hegemons. rather like a firewall config.)

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-23#1032296 << the control does not need to be by any means perfect. but even w/ 'imperfect', observe that attempts to 'hack' law -- in the sense of 'plebe brings down aristocrat using legal technicality' -- are attempted strictly by roomtemp iq nitwits and end in predictable and comical failure.

snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-23 23:17:49 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-22#1032247 << again here, the implicit idea that there's a "they" that is in perfect control.

asciilifeform: in this aspect, law is 'promise', specifically in contrast to 'protocol' in the old 'promisetronics vs protocol' dichotomy.

snsabot: Logged on 2020-12-17 18:43:44 asciilifeform: billymg: from my pov ~100% of what makes bitcoin interesting, is ~specifically~ the found key? keep car. aspect. where possession is not '9/10th of the law' but 10/10ths.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-24#1032309 << likely was a marginist

snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-24 09:17:59 thimbronion: Overheard 2 days ago in the dentists office from a patient in regards to their Bitcoin investment: "I got liquidated." Guy sounded mentally ill.

snsabot: Logged on 2020-05-05 19:56:14 asciilifeform: it worx because there's a neverending supply of a) dumb shits who see 'paper gold' as == to actual b) greedy shits who want 'leverage'

asciilifeform: !w poll

watchglass: Polling 15 nodes...

watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!

watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!

watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.025s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=671841

watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=672016

watchglass: 108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.090s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=672016 (Operator: asciilifeform)

watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.023s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=671977 (Operator: whaack)

watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.158s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=672016

watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.163s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=672016

watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.204s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=672016

watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.231s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=672016

watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.253s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=672016

watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.341s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671396

watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.673s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=672016

watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!

watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)