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asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $19236.62
asciilifeform: !w poll
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BingoBoingo: Looks like growing pains of world realigning around reality of USSA being a third world shithole. The derpy changing Obama era messaging can't work in a Biden or Harris administration, and a second Trump administration can't do more than speed the painful path USSA is going to crash into on its way to just maybe becoming a normal country.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun disagree -- but what prompted this observation ?
BingoBoingo: Proximity to the last BTC all time high and the impotence of the USSA regime to really... do anything about it this time.
asciilifeform: aa.
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $19097.18
asciilifeform: i fughet, what was the 2018 high... 20?
BingoBoingo: Feels like fall 2012 except instead of the strength of Bitcoin driving the price movement, the increasingly obvious insolvency of the USSA is cratering the dollar.
BingoBoingo: Right about 20
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik the july $2T printolade dump is driving.
BingoBoingo: It's not driving it alone though. The lack of other places to put it is driving after the color revolution started going through the clear motions this month.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the naked-eye-visible btc-usd exch rate is a rather gnarly subj that i dun pretend to fully understand. historically, however, mostly driven by short-term speculator machinations.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-05-05 19:56:14 asciilifeform: it worx because there's a neverending supply of a) dumb shits who see 'paper gold' as == to actual b) greedy shits who want 'leverage'
BingoBoingo has spent the last few weeks doing some serious life cleaning and stumbling into a sort of masterclass in human psychology.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you were iirc already a champ in 'clean', i admit have difficulty to picture what was left to clean..
BingoBoingo: When the worlds as we new them ended in February and again in March... I really had to hit my head on some hard rocks. It turns out things that worked for me in the English language portion of my life never got imported to the Spanish language portion.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re trump -- fella had 4y to raise an army of blackshirts/brownshirts/freikorps, proclaim himself fuhrer, and 'drain swamp'. instead spammed on twatter etc. not much remaining to be said re subj imho.
BingoBoingo: Right, only difference in second term is he ought to know he's angry and his son in law is his enemy
BingoBoingo: Should one happen
asciilifeform: sure, but what diff if kermit the muppet is 'angry' vs 'not angry'. is character in tv.
asciilifeform: the anger of old man only makes any diff if an army of younger ones are angry ~with him~
asciilifeform: and coherently, like laser, not out of phase, like white light.
BingoBoingo: Something in that vein does seem to be emerging, but I suspect it is made of rather soft stuff
BingoBoingo between April and today has had a five figure number of conversations with strangers, mostly living in the zone.
asciilifeform knew approx. how trump reign would go, because we had a very similar figure in orcistan
snsabot: (trilema) 2016-10-16 asciilifeform: if the d00d weren't a zhirinovsky-style muppet, he'd be recruiting good old-fashioned brownshirts just about now.
asciilifeform: w/ one minor difference, zhirinovsky was not given a chance to 'play president on tv', the ru equiv. post is an actual, rather than ritual, throne. but otherwise very similar.
BingoBoingo: Grinding out conversations, a lot of trends were hard not to notice. Young black men who had ever had a taste of productive employment loved Trumpism if not Trump the man.
asciilifeform: ( at this pt. even old mr. mold appears to grasp -- potus is a figurehead post )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in late '80s, orcs similarly luvved gorby
asciilifeform: 'maybe, hoap! change!'
BingoBoingo: What's unavoidable is that fact that in the official numbers China passed USSA in GDP adjusted for purchasing power parity around 2014. May have actually happened quite a bit earlier.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you know what a low-pass filter is ?
asciilifeform: (see e.g. this likbez.) asciilifeform has, so to speak, low-pass filter in his head. and from asciilifeform's pov, bush II is still on the throne.
asciilifeform: i.e. usa politburo consists of ~same circle of folx as in that era. % of rubbish chinesium in erryday goods -- ~same. prices -- ~same, aside from real estate pyramid.
asciilifeform: taxation -- similarly extortionate.
BingoBoingo: Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama were all rather clearly of CIA families.
asciilifeform: see also.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-01-27 20:03:02 asciilifeform: the folx who actually have an effect on 'what you see when looking out of your window' don't stand for elections.
BingoBoingo: No substantial differences outside branding and which part of the dialectic they push
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and the folx surrounding trump, and allowing him to 'play' -- same people.
asciilifeform: and ultimately same 'picture when looking out of window'.
BingoBoingo: What happens in December is entirely dependent on whether any of the gerontocrats on SCOTUS are willing to make principled stand and blow up a good chunk of regime, or if they are too concerned about their own homeostasis
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: last major 'look out of window' change in usa was when bush II switched usg-funded sector of economy to 'war footing', resurrecting 'gravy train' from 1980s for a select circle. prior to that -- when clinton destroyed the remnants of usa-based industry.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the judges are running exactly same program as all other politburo members afaik.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-10-29 11:45:39 asciilifeform: << early orlov had a nifty piece re: how 'the permanent objective of usa's 1party state is the continuation of Business-As-Usual' .
BingoBoingo: Looting is looting, eventually when a place gets looted on the Saint Louis level, even the bricks from the facade will get taken.
asciilifeform: the designated looteries (i.e. where middle class lives) -- looted. the non-designated -- not to date touched afaik anywhere.
BingoBoingo: Hard for me to agree with that considering the state of Argentina, California, Illinois, etc
asciilifeform: all 3 seem to contain 'untouchable' guarded reservations where politburo & their flunkies live unmolested
BingoBoingo: And the size and impenetrability of those refuges were materially degraded this year
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to elaborate ? ( where, when -- if know )
BingoBoingo: The comfortable playground that used to be the magnificent mile in Chicago, dead. California governor Newsom can't organize his "we aren't them so let us enjoy some of that normalcy we took from them" parties without exposure
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: interesting (aaand, would be interesting to read moar coverage of these on your www !)
BingoBoingo: In Argentina Fernandez can't hide the fact that every Argentine with a vacation spot is Punta del Este has made their vacation spot their home.
thimbronion: It's been hard to fathom why is trashing their own strongholds.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: reichstag fire, presumably
BingoBoingo: Really I have been missing these sorts of conversations that put venom in Qntra, and I have been working to recreate that sort of environment irl to so far mixed yet promising results
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: most folx i try irl turn out to be repeaters for 'blue' (moar rarely -- 'red') fishwrap/tv pablum
asciilifeform: ( the remainder -- carefully 'apolitical' e.g. maffs folx )
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-09-11 asciilifeform: 'one day the king of all animals gathered his subjects in a forest clearing and said : 'today we shall anally punish those who have the smallest mouths. right, hedgehog?' 'Yaaaaa, Yaaaa!' said hedgehog. 'and tomorrow we shall anally chastise those who have the biggest mouths! 'hmm, hmm,' said hippo. ' )
asciilifeform bbl, meat
BingoBoingo has really just been filtering like hell early in the conversations that follow from setting up baits in addition to brute the brute force searches.
BingoBoingo puts "get over the humiliation of the late Republic era" and start putting lessons and observations from the developing oral culture circle and scattered notes into blog/news material
BingoBoingo: on the board
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: will be very interesting to read these

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